Question, Suggestion and Motivation.

hello all, just wanna start a discussion in this thread.. afterall it's a discussion board lol..


--- I. About The +฿ type forum ---

The Problem : it picked my interest while a2s implement the "buy to view/download" feature, thus even while i mostly have read almost all of them for just being an angeclub member after paying 8 bucks. (12, if you count the subcriber package). this is quite burdening for member that has low budget limit. while they saving some money to subcribe just to know they have to spend a few more dollar to view the method.

it's rather controversial though. when the maker of the method definitely have to have some benefit by sharing their method, especially [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION], [MENTION=28]Chillivanilli[/MENTION] - myrina duet and also others that wasn't stated. the user that bought the subs would feel dissapointed because they have no +฿ on their pocket.

the issues temporary solved with angemon giving us 10 +฿ givaway, but for how long it will gonna last? newer member won't have any of them left..

The (and/or) Suggestion :
1. give the new member 3 +฿ everytime they purchase angeclub membership you could charge 10 USD for membership included 3 +฿ or (keep the price of 8$ and still giving some +฿ if you're generous), so the member could still view some of the method of they see fit and making some money out of it.

2. explain the current situation beforehand (it would be best if it could be included while we're choosing membership package) that angeclub ebooks needs some +฿ to download, and purchasing angeclub subs just giving them subs, not the +฿ they needed for the method. this will reduce the deceived syndrome that forgot to read the announcement (for the tight budget, especially)




--- II. Moved/Deleted/Saturated Thread Diplay ---

a. the ui was confusing while browsing some section, we still see the moved threads there, but with note, Moved. could admin just delete the original threads?



b. it would be convenience to have some threads (especially angeclub subscriber) have pointer that "saturated" text if the method/ebook is saturated. it could have another tag like reading material, if some method have educational purpose only. (can't earn anymore). it doesn't have to be one sided admin to update and try the methods, but it could be a cooperation between thread starter, mod and user together. i know that admin have real life and it was us creating this community. not just the admin.




--- III. About Earning Money Online ---

here in angeclub, I personally learn many things from spoofing to click own ads etc. but the most important things i learned is, there is no easy money. everything is earned with a hard work, or if you choose the easier way but costs more, initial deposit.

i've read a post about some member didn't earn anything here, or another method posted in another forum. (and my real life friend too whine about how earning online is pointleess). but actually most (if not all) the method described here, was practically doable and really earn you some money.

for example : the clicking ad method is incredible, but how could you click your own ad if you don't have any adsense/blog/web how would you earn from this? you have to learn making website, adsense, which lead to another great method about traffic delivery, poofing etc. great wall wasn't built in one night. so does your earning.
sure, there is several instant methods. (PTC, PTP etc. but it wasn't very profitable if you don't invest or spend a fairly long time within the website)

for the newbies in internet monetizing, (including me) keep learning, and earning will come before you know it.



[MENTION=28]Chillivanilli[/MENTION] i have a great idea about optimizing hitleap minutes using bots. may I PM you?




--- disclaimer ---

this thread is created for a healthy discussion only, no trolling, flaming or accusing was intended while making it, and if some of the reader somehow feel insulted in any kind of matter, i humbly apologize

I personally sorry for my english, both the bad grammar and confusing/insulting/discouraging/misuse word choice. english was not my native language. it was not intentional.. :)
you could PM me for complaining, or personal discussion.. lol




thank you for reading, and sorry for the long post, here's a potato (9Gag Style)

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I-
Thanks for this lovely thread , I guess now we can make everything clear.
Well , you need to know that implementing this coin system cost me 240$ (the lowest price to make this type of system) and we still need to invest more to make the system even more stable. Why we have do all of that? It only for your good.
From your views you're seeing that we're charging members more than what they can afford , but you have to know that the coins market is only made to help inactive AngeClub members (thanks to [MENTION=28]Chillivanilli[/MENTION] idea).
The system were going to be Share to Share , that means you earn coins only by sharing, you need to share so you can see what other's share , so those too can get something in exchange.
It has no point that the shares be one sided (mostly Chillivanilli & me) , or an AngeClub member subscriber and start sharing his ebooks (methods) then you just go and download them , he never benefit anything since you never share anything.
So [MENTION=28]Chillivanilli[/MENTION] suggested , since not all the members know what to share or how to code , we need to give them a way to buy coins and those who do share will benefit by selling their coins . That's why we recommended buying coins from other members (by making our rate expensive) so those members will benefit something.

1- the 10 coins giveaway was a bad idea ,since we don't have much activity so even if we post something or an angeclub member share something other members will be using those free coins , and they will never share anything.
So your idea about giving more free coins while subscribing is not good, since most of AngeClub members will save those coins to unlock worthy methods and they will never share anything.

2- I guess you're right , we need to make it clear for people that they need coins to unlock methods , we will try to make that , thanks for the suggestion.

II-
I think that every method worth reading , I've bought a lot of methods just to get ideas , since no one provide our type of methods (step by step) but I got many ideas that I turn it to earning machine (even the author can't do it), so all methods worth. Moreoever for the saturated methods, instead of keeping them in the AngeClub section , we move them to public , so if you see it in public section that means it's a reading material .

Finally , I'm glad that you've started this thread, that means you're concerned about our forum , I hope you've got the idea since we're doing this coin system to help everyone and to avoid leechers.
I will be waiting to see other replies , and we will make sure to make the forum a good place for you.