12 tips on buying expired domains

[h=1]Hi guys,[/h]I have just received this email and it really worth sharing , if you're looking to be a pro domainer and you want to start making big cash on domain flipping , then you should really finish reading this thread , those are really some useful tips.


The first question a customer asks us is "How do I know which domain to buy?"
There are so many scammy domains out there with high page ranks, which people have purchased for large amounts of money, only to find out that the domain was worthless. That led to this series of articles where we help you know what to look at before you buy a domain.


This article is going to try and answer the following questions:


  • Why do I need to know about these metrics?
  • How do I evaluate an expired domain? What price should I pay?
  • How do I know whether an expired domain is a scam?
  • How do I know that the page rank (or any other metric) is not going to drop after I purchase the domain?
  • What metrics should I be looking at?


Most people use Page Rank to filter; some use Moz Domain Authority, while others use Majestic Seo Trust Flow. However, one thing that you need to know is that every single metric can be manipulated.
It is easier to manipulate some metrics (DA) and tougher to manipulate others (TF), but relying on a single metric is a fallacy.

Below we will list various metrics to look at. While looking at these domain metrics, if any of the values seem strange, you should either discard the domain or look deeper into the back link profile and research further.

1. Domain Age:
Search engines prefer older domains since older domains are more trustworthy. If the expired domain has not been dropped, it could retain its age in the eyes of the search engines.
There are three type of "ages":


  • The domain age from the WhoIs details. This basically counts from when the domain was last registered. If a domain drops this number is often reset
  • The domain age from Wayback Archive. This counts the age from the first date that the Wayback Archive crawled the website. If a domain did not have a website, then this age might be much smaller than the WhoIs age
  • The website age from Wayback Archive. This counts the age of the last website that was put on the domain. This is very useful number to know whether the domain was regularly used.


Tip#1: Look for domains that are a few years older, since it generally takes a while to amass enough authority, but don't fret if the domain is not decades old.


2. Page Rank (PR):
Page Rank is the default metric most people use to judge the value of a domain. Note that for the last few years Google has been saying that the Toolbar Page Rank will no longer be updated . So over time this number is going to be useless.
What most people do not know is that the PR that is shown on the toolbar is not the PR that Google uses internally. Internally the page rank is being continuously calculated and used to rank websites in the search results. However, Google only pushes out this data to the toolbar once a year (and may not in the future). Hence this data tends to be old and quite useless to base decisions on. The PR can also be easily faked by forwarding a domain to any website with high PR. At DomCop, we make sure to verify that the PR is not fake.


Tip#2: Be wary of expired domains with a PR greater than 6. These are most likely fake. Honestly, we wish the industry would simply discard Page Rank and stick to something better, like the Majestic Trust Flow


3. Moz Metrics:
Domain Authority (DA) is a metric between 0 and 100 that predicts how well a website will perform in SERPs (search engine result pages). DA can be used to compare one domain against another.
Page Authority (PA) is a metric that denotes the chance of a specific page to rank in the SERPs. This is similar to the DA for the domain - however it is a metric for the home page of the website. In an ideal situation these two values should be very similar to each other.

DA/PA tend to be very popular metrics to gauge the value of a domain. Unfortunately they are also extremely easy to manipulate. For some reason, the other Moz metrics like Moz Rank and Trust Rank that are equally good, have not found popularity with domainers.


Tip#3: Look for domains with a DA greater than 30. Good domains tend to have at least that much.


4. Majestic SEO Metrics (My Favorites!):
Trust Flow and Citation Flow have gained in popularity over the last few years. While the Citation Flow is a measure like Page Rank and is very easy to manipulate, the Trust Flow is a much tougher metric to manipulate and has therefore become the default metric that is looked at first.
However, an even better metric that is harder to manipulate is the ratio between the Trust Flow and Citation Flow. Most real domains will have a TF/CF of slightly more than 1, while scammy domains have a ratio much below 1.
Another really great metric provided by Majestic is the Topical Trust Flow Category. This shows information about the niche that the back links to the domain are from. Real domains tend to have back links from only one top-level niche, while scammy domains have back links from different niches.


Tip#4: It is virtually impossible to manipulate the combination of TF/CF ratio, Topical Categories and Trust Flow. With these three numbers you can filter out most of the fake domains.


5. SEMrush Metrics:
SEMrush provides SERP data for domains. This data essentially tells you if the domain currently ranks for any keywords and is a good estimator of the traffic you can expect from it. They offer the number of keywords, monthly organic traffic volume and cost (based on keyword cpc and volume).


Tip#5: The cost of traffic definitely helps justify the value of the domain. However, run a few keyword queries on Google to check up if the SEMrush data is accurate.


6. SimilarWeb Metrics:
SimilarWeb provides metrics for domain traffic and its rank compared to other domains in the world, and in its niche. While the traffic numbers might be a little off, it is a great way to compare between two domains.


Tip#6: At DomCop, we prefer SimilarWeb Rank to Alexa Rank in comparing between various domains.


7. Compete Metrics (only for the US)
Compete provides the approximate number of U.S. visitors to the top million web sites. They compute this data directly from ISPs and application service providers.


Tip#7: If you are looking for US based traffic the Compete traffic data is worth looking at.


8. Alexa Metrics (overrated!)
Alexa maintains ranking data on all websites in the world. The ranking algorithm is based on the total amount of traffic over the last three months. They take data from a sample population and build the rankings off that.
The rankings are not accurate enough as the sample population is biased (data is taken mostly from those with the toolbar installed). Also they can be easily manipulated by increasing the number of visits to a domain after installing the toolbar. However, since Alexa rankings have been there for a long time, they are quite popular among users.


Tip#8: Do not take the ranking and traffic seriously. The ranking is a nice number to have, but not something to solely base your purchase price on.


9. Back Link Data (This is everything)
Back links determine the page rank of the domain and therefore checking the back links to a domain is paramount in determining its true value. However mere back link counts are not enough. Many domains will have loads of back links that will disappear soon after you purchase them. The trick is to find out which back links look like they will stay once the domain has been purchased.
You can check the back links from Google, Moz, Majestic SEO and Ahrefs. Google would obviously be our first choice. However, Google does not show very accurate data on the back links. Sometimes it may show no links at all. Therefore, although you ought give higher priority to the links you find through the Google link operator, you should also check the back links from Moz, Majestic SEO and Ahrefs. Ideally you should do a check using all three.
To see the value of the back link you should check the following:
Does the link really exist? You need to visit the webpage that links to the domain and view the html source code (Right click -> View Source/View Page Source). Search for the link in the html code. If you are unable to find the html link or the link is a JavaScript link, then you should ignore this link and the rest of the steps.
Follow v/s No Follow - We need to check if the link allows the page rank juice to pass through to the domain. If the link has a rel="nofollow" attribute, then this will not contribute to the page rank of the domain. It is still good to have the link - but this link should not be considered in the page rank calculation ahead.
Contextual Link - Is the link surrounded by many links or by text? If the link is surrounded by a lot of other links (like a blog roll) then it's possible that entire set of links have been posted there in order to simply increase the page ranks of the various domains. If the link is surrounded by text and is part of an article then the chances are that this link is genuine - which means that it will probably still exist six months after you have purchased the domain.
OutBound Links (OBL) - Check the total number of OBL on the page. A very large OBL would mean that the PR juice that would flow would be a very small fraction of the domain PR. Additionally, search engines categorize pages with 100 or more OBL as back link farms.
Website Category - Check whether the website seems to be part of the same category as the domain. If the domain seems like a blog about computers and the link is from a page about golf, this link may not be valuable.


Tip#9: This step is the most intensive step of the lot. Therefore, keep it as the last step after you have filtered the list based on other metrics.


10. Google Penalties:
One important check to make is whether Google has indexed any pages from the domain. While some domains (namely in GoDaddy auctions) will have a single page indexed, you should be wary of domains that have zero pages indexed. This may be due to a manual or algorithmic penalty on the domain due to black hat seo tactics. It’s also possible that the domain expired a long time ago and the site has been completely de-indexed from Google.


Tip#10: If a domain is de-indexed, and there are no clear indications of black hat seo, you could register it and put up a single page website. Wait for a few weeks to see if it gets indexed. If the site does not get indexed within a few weeks, do not spend any more effort on it.


11. Domain industry/sector
Most often people buy expired domains for a specific industry or sector. It is therefore useful to know what kind of website existed on the domain before you purchase it. It could be a site that does not fit into the category or industry that you want. The best way to check this is to go to the WayBack Machine and check the different versions of the domain since it was first online. Also check the Topical Categories and see whether the links to the domain are from the same niche as shown on the Wayback machine


Tip#11: Google gives contextual links more weightage. If you are buying an expired domain for linking to your money site, then definitely look for a domain from the same sector/industry


12. Social Stats (Sharing is Caring?)
We do not know how much social sharing affects SEO and domain rankings. However, if a domain has been shared across multiple networks it might be a sign of legitimacy for the search engines. Of course, don't get carried away by a domain that has a very large social count number, as these are extremely easy to fake.


Tip#12: Not all social networks are created equal. If your website is image heavy then Pinterest shares would be beneficial, if it’s business oriented then LinkedIn and so on.


I hope you have enjoyed this tutorial.
Regards,
Angemon

Tags: [MENTION=3601]EdgarT[/MENTION] [MENTION=3483]Jeshua[/MENTION]
U Y no tag me :sweat:
i like to read infos too :sweat:
Thanks for the share tho, nice informations
Definitely worth sharing this email, thanks [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION]. I found useful all tips , especially the back link data ones. I'm still a bit surprised , since there are still gullible people that are lure by high Page Rank of domains. I would be grateful if you could answer some questions :
1) How can a domain be "dropped" ?
2) Once a site has been de-indexed from Google, can it be re-indexed once again ?
Thanks again [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION] for your effort for us.
Vey interesting tips. Thanks [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION].
lol [MENTION=3767]Ryuzaki[/MENTION] , I tagged them since I know they're the only ones interested in domaining. You see [MENTION=3483]Jeshua[/MENTION] always ask questions so I'm sure he will be interested

Jeshua;25593 wrote:Definitely worth sharing this email, thanks [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION]. I found useful all tips , especially the back link data ones. I'm still a bit surprised , since there are still gullible people that are lure by high Page Rank of domains. I would be grateful if you could answer some questions :
1) How can a domain be "dropped" ?
2) Once a site has been de-indexed from Google, can it be re-indexed once again ?
Thanks again [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION] for your effort for us.


1- The domain drop when the registrant (the domain owner/holder) failed to pay for renewal. This image will help you to understand the process :
User posted image

2- I guess yes , as google allows re-submissions, in case you got de-indexed.
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/40052?hl=en
Great post,
i like to read infos too
Thanks for the share tho, nice informations
Wow that's a great one. Thanks [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION] I'll share this post to my friends, maybe they join us.
Bun4ld1m;33322 wrote:Wow that's a great one. Thanks [MENTION=1]Angemon[/MENTION] I'll share this post to my friends, maybe they join us.


thank you my friend
13. Domain letter

4 letter domains has been more than $1200.
larryb;35738 wrote:13. Domain letter

4 letter domains has been more than $1200.


not all 4L , just the .com that are doing fine , and not all of them , some has been sold yesterday for just 290$ on NameJet
wcve.com 290 USD 2016-10-28 NameJet
owug.com 290 USD 2016-10-28 NameJet
oudc.com 290 USD 2016-10-28 NameJet
kvvm.com 290 USD 2016-10-28 NameJet
cexq.com 289 USD 2016-10-28 NameJet
Hi there! I happen to see this message and got interested in reading it. Thankfully, I was able to learn something new. I'm going to take note of the things you've mentioned here as I think might be able to use these in the future.:)
Hi guys. Just to tell you I just sold a domain name for 300$ and it had 13 letters :) It didn't have that many backlinks (and a very bad site layout, loool) but it was over 5 years old. The domain was not for sale and I was approached by a goddady rep saying he had a buyer for the domain. All the free domain evaluation sites would give me a value between 0.00$ and 45$ for it. Main cause was the name itself. Too long and misspelled.

So, I have spent around 40$ in the last year and a half (originally I spent 15$ for 20 domains but I renewed 3 of them, making the amount go higher), sold 2 domains for a total of 450$.
jcpbs;36545 wrote:Hi guys. Just to tell you I just sold a domain name for 300$ and it had 13 letters :) It didn't have that many backlinks (and a very bad site layout, loool) but it was over 5 years old. The domain was not for sale and I was approached by a goddady rep saying he had a buyer for the domain. All the free domain evaluation sites would give me a value between 0.00$ and 45$ for it. Main cause was the name itself. Too long and misspelled.

So, I have spent around 40$ in the last year and a half (originally I spent 15$ for 20 domains but I renewed 3 of them, making the amount go higher), sold 2 domains for a total of 450$.


That's called an end-user , which means being lucky , so we can't have a strategy for such thing , when we're learning domaining strategy we are considering selling the domain names for resellers (other domainers) as well , so we need to take care of what we are registering or what we are planning to invest our money on.
Congrats on your sale and I hope many A2S members will get lucky in the domaining market.
Yes, I got lucky, specially with the name I had. I was actually surprised when I got the proposal. I didn't even negotiate the price, just accepted the money. For a time I thought it was a hoax...
The other domain I sold was the very first domain I bought for domain flipping. It was the "porn-play.com" domain, ahahah.